Religion and Science

August 11, 2011 by
Filed under: Mormon Church 

Probably what I am about to post has been posted before by others, but it is worth republishing. It helps understand the limitations of trying to prove or deny the existence of God by using our limited logics.

When someone asks me to "prove there is a God," I wonder what he means. I suppose he means, he wants me to prove it logically. But the truth can't be established by logic alone because even sound logic doesn't always yield right conclusions. In the Middle Ages some people thought the world was flat. To them that was perfectly logical; and though their logic may have been impeccable, their conclusions were false because they started from false assumptions.

The point is that, in religion, in science, in everything that really matters, only correct assumptions can lead to reliable conclusions.(My Father's Formula- By Henry Eyring- 1978)

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As a college student, I learned that the original premise of a syllogism, or logic train, is critical. Sophisticated lines of reasoning may seem compelling at each step in the logic, but if the original premises are faulty or incomplete, the whole line of reasoning will be flawed. ( The Quest for Spiritual Knowledge – By Elder Robert S. Wood- June 2007)

The doctrine does not abuse logic, for "truth is reason," especially "truth eternal", but is more than logic alone can fully support. (See Hymns, 1985, no. 292.) It could only come from restoration by modern revelation. It was certainly not abroad in the land of America until Joseph Smith's articulations. ( Premortality, a Glorious Reality – Elder Neal A. Maxwell -Nov 1985)

In the Church most of the basic questions we ask are questions of fact. Did Joseph Smith see God the Father and his Son Jesus Christ in the Sacred Grove or did he not? This question boils down to just as much a historical fact as who won the Battle of Hastings, or how high is the highest mountain. These are questions of fact, and they do not depend on value judgment, emotion, or exercises in logic.(Things Not Seen – Don Lind- Sep 1986)

We come to know the truth of the gospel of Jesus Christ not simply by the exercise of intellect or the process of logic but by acting on what we learn. Through faith and obedience, the validity of gospel doctrine can be etched upon our hearts.

If our faith is rooted in the sandy soil of reason and logic, it will be swept away by a rising tide driven by the escalating winds of opposition. A faith founded in Jesus Christ and on the rock of revelation will endure through the fiercest storms of life (see Helaman 5:12).(Coming to Know for Ourselves – By Elder Kenneth Johnson- July 2008)

Let me give you an example of how I think we ought to present it to them. This is a response from President Spencer W. Kimball, this great Christlike man, to a youth who sat in his office and said, "These are your own opinions." And then President Kimball responded, "Yes, if that were true, I would agree with you. Your mind may be broader than mine, your gray matter thicker and grayer, your logic and thinking processes may be far more alert than my own, but you have forgotten one thing: Your opinion, no matter how erudite, is matched not by mine but by the composite of the inspiration of all of the ancient prophets of at least six millennia and of the Creator himself. Your logic is hardly equal to the inspiration and revelation from the Lord that I am representing to you. Your deliberations look rather puny when compared to the knowledge and wisdom of the God who made your little mind and gave it function. God said the act is sin. Numerous prophets claim the act is sin. The act is sin. Yes, my friend, if it were your mind against mine, your logic against mine, your perception against my limited ability, then I would retire and leave you to your deliberations and conclusions. But I am expressing not my own opinion but the word of the Lord of heaven, and I am telling you God's truth. The act is sin. To compare your opinion with the Lord's proven truth might be like a grain of sand compared to the bulk of Mt. Everest."(News of the Church -Sep 1973)

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